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A reality check for those that think all is well!

Yesterday my son and I went to the local sporting car club's come and try day for a look.

A few key stats to bring everyone in karting back to reality;

Membership half price for under 18's ($45)

Junior Licence less than half price ($30)

Race entries half price for under 18's ($40-50)

We spoke to a number of people who bought cars from auction for less than $1000 and had grins on their faces as large as any I have yet seen at a kart meeting.

No super sticky tyres required that wear out in one meeting

No homoligated rear bumper bars required

Engines last a whole season or two...........

No arbitary weight limits

No transducer required

ETC ETC ETC

Yes we know this is GRASS ROOTS motorsport but if you are being realistic none of you out there or your kids will be professional race drivers................. so you are doing it for fun!

Not sure what we will do now but the other half of the equation is for us to race this year we need to;

Buy a new engine KA 100 $3000

Buy a rear bumper $350

Buy new tyres every 1-2 meetings $300

Buy a rib protector and new seat (because the rib protector makes the old one too small) $500

Junk a J that a year ago was worth $1000-1500

Have no one to race with in Junior heavy unless we travel a minimum of 3 hours and then only a couple of others......... so stuck in a JNL field watching them take off.........

My son and I ARE doing this for fun and got into it about 18months ago and ran all last year and now HAVE to spend the above just to race.   We have not raced this year and not sure if we will.

ITS BLOODY RIDICULOUS

How can anyone think KA are looking after the majority of the sport? 

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Robert, what state are you in and what is the 'class' of racing?  Is it gymkhana?

Hi Robert,

Not many in Junior heavy anymore . A big part of this is because of the mandatory age for moving up to seniors being year of 15th Birthday. Most kids aged between 12 and 14 will be in the lighter class as many boys have yet to fully develop. NZ has the right idea, they give parents the option to move their children to seniors or remain in Juniors up to a reasonable age depending on weight, experience and freedom for parents to have some say.

KA should not have the right to force minors into racing grown men/women in 100 +kg karts. Parents need to be the main decision makers in concert with their children.

Neville,

The local club runs "speed" events, so supersprints, hill climbs etc but the licence also allows for motorkhanas, drifting, rallycross, rally sprints and regularity.  This is definitely low level car racing.

Alex,

We agree with you and are also not happy with the new age arrangements, what other sport makes 15 year olds compete against adults? Yes other sports allow it if the child is exceptionally talented and can handle it. It is also normally carefully reviewed case by case.  My son is a large boy he is 6ft just turned 14 and we were never close to running lights.  KA should be able to handle anybody starting in karting at any age. Why after 2 years of racing should he be forced to race against adults?

Rob

I can't wait to hear the reasoning of KA & the State bodies as to why they waited so long before they did something or are they waiting until the sport goes up it's own orifice? They have been warned numerous times what is becoming of the sport yet they do NOTHING. The States have been told numerous times the control they have on Karting in this country, yet they do NOTHING. The States have been told numerous times how they can control/replace the Board of KA, yet they choose to do NOTHING.How much longer will this very destructive situation continue? The Clubs must be very concerned at the loss of revenue by falling entries at meetings not to mention the revenue loss by less numbers practising. Maybe the people on the Club executives will be concerned enough to direct their Delegate to inform their State body they are pissed off!

Car club in my area for many years (approx 12 years) have been running junior program 4cyl cars etc in motorkanas rallysprint /cross on club owned track under cams system I believe similar prices as above healthy turn out on regular basis.

We have moved to cars for my oldest son as well and the costs aren't even comparable.$20 for club membership and $70 for a Cams L2S licence. But having a look around there is lots of low cost sport that we could try inc test n tune days, motorkhanas, speed events as all were really there for is to have fun.And after the first drive he doesnt really want to go back to karts

Latest is that after copping a basting KA have decided to review club racing?  All well and good but if the next part is right then we maysink deeper into trouble. 

Someone from the V8 utes is going to head up a review of club karting?  WTF?

So when we look at the whole of sport review, what went wrong?

richard gagie said:

I can't wait to hear the reasoning of KA & the State bodies as to why they waited so long before they did something or are they waiting until the sport goes up it's own orifice? They have been warned numerous times what is becoming of the sport yet they do NOTHING. The States have been told numerous times the control they have on Karting in this country, yet they do NOTHING. The States have been told numerous times how they can control/replace the Board of KA, yet they choose to do NOTHING.How much longer will this very destructive situation continue? The Clubs must be very concerned at the loss of revenue by falling entries at meetings not to mention the revenue loss by less numbers practising. Maybe the people on the Club executives will be concerned enough to direct their Delegate to inform their State body they are pissed off!

Nev I may be putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5 but if what you are saying is true my guess would be Spud Wood. If it is, he will do a great job of sorting out club karting.  As long as he is aloud some freedom that is. 

Neville Scullion said:

Latest is that after copping a basting KA have decided to review club racing?  All well and good but if the next part is right then we maysink deeper into trouble. 

Someone from the V8 utes is going to head up a review of club karting?  WTF?

So when we look at the whole of sport review, what went wrong?

richard gagie said:

I can't wait to hear the reasoning of KA & the State bodies as to why they waited so long before they did something or are they waiting until the sport goes up it's own orifice? They have been warned numerous times what is becoming of the sport yet they do NOTHING. The States have been told numerous times the control they have on Karting in this country, yet they do NOTHING. The States have been told numerous times how they can control/replace the Board of KA, yet they choose to do NOTHING.How much longer will this very destructive situation continue? The Clubs must be very concerned at the loss of revenue by falling entries at meetings not to mention the revenue loss by less numbers practising. Maybe the people on the Club executives will be concerned enough to direct their Delegate to inform their State body they are pissed off!

Rather than squandering more of karters money on a review headed by someone outside karting how about buying a big mirror that the Board of Directors can look in to see the real problem. Why is there the need for a Review? I thought the Board was appointed because of their expertise!

Or could we just gainfully employ the members of the various committees to put some proposals forward, for the board to rubber stamp?

Terry

Not even employ Terry, just use them as intended.  Although having said that they were not put together as originally intended.

Terry Sheedy said:

Or could we just gainfully employ the members of the various committees to put some proposals forward, for the board to rubber stamp?

Terry

Nick don't know the guy, or if he is the one being considered but why do they keep looking outside of the sport??????  What has it achieved so far?

There is a lot of talk about numbers being down, and significantly it seems to be within the cadet 9 class? 

Nick Stray said:

Nev I may be putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5 but if what you are saying is true my guess would be Spud Wood. If it is, he will do a great job of sorting out club karting.  As long as he is aloud some freedom that is. 

Neville Scullion said:

Latest is that after copping a basting KA have decided to review club racing?  All well and good but if the next part is right then we maysink deeper into trouble. 

Someone from the V8 utes is going to head up a review of club karting?  WTF?

So when we look at the whole of sport review, what went wrong?

richard gagie said:

I can't wait to hear the reasoning of KA & the State bodies as to why they waited so long before they did something or are they waiting until the sport goes up it's own orifice? They have been warned numerous times what is becoming of the sport yet they do NOTHING. The States have been told numerous times the control they have on Karting in this country, yet they do NOTHING. The States have been told numerous times how they can control/replace the Board of KA, yet they choose to do NOTHING.How much longer will this very destructive situation continue? The Clubs must be very concerned at the loss of revenue by falling entries at meetings not to mention the revenue loss by less numbers practising. Maybe the people on the Club executives will be concerned enough to direct their Delegate to inform their State body they are pissed off!

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